Medical Debt in America: A Research and Policy Forum

May 15, 2025 – Washington, DC

The Lown Institute brought together over 80 policymakers, hospitals, patient advocates, researchers, and other experts on medical debt for a one-day, in person conference, discussing the scope, drivers, and emerging challenges and potential solutions.

Watch the video recording

Click the links below to view the recording for each panel at the event.

Welcome remarks—Vikas Saini (Lown Institute)

Flipping the script: Starting with solutions— Vikas Saini (Lown Institute), Fred Cerise (Parkland Medical Center & ABIM Foundation), Patricia Kelmar (U.S. PIRG), David Shuster (Horizon Goodwill Industries)

What do we know about medical debt? A review of the evidence —Chris Goodman (University of South Carolina),
Fred Blavin (Urban Institute), Kelsey Chalmers (Lown Institute), Noam Levey, (KFF Health News), Matthew Rae (KFF)

Hospitals and medical debt: Opportunities for change and barriers to action— Noam Levey (KFF Health News), Fred Cerise (Parkland Medical Center & ABIM Foundation), Connor Coursey (Small Business Majority), Deepak Manmohan Goyal (Monument Health), Eli Rushbanks (Dollar For), Eva Stahl (Undue Medical Debt)

State-based solutions: How states are taking action on medical debt— Anthony Wright (Families USA), Elisabeth Benjamin (Community Service Society of New York), Nicole Dozier (North Carolina Justice Center), Maanasa Kona (Georgetown University), Luvia Quinones (Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights)

Federal solutions: Legislative and administrative pathways for change—Vikas Saini (Lown Institute), Blair Elliott (Third Way), Michelle Sternthal (Community Catalyst)

Systemic solutions: Improving healthcare affordability and access in the long term— 
Berneta Haynes (National Consumer Law Center), Ge Bai (Johns Hopkins Carey Business School), Sara Collins (Commonwealth Fund), Ed Weisbart (Physicians for a National Health Program), Wes Yin (UCLA Anderson School of Management)

Closing remarks— Vikas Saini (Lown Institute)

Participating organizations

  • Americans for Financial Reform
  • ​​Colorado Consumer Health Initiative (CCHI)
  • Community Catalyst
  • Consumer Reports
  • Community Service Society of New York (CSSNY)
  • Dollar For
  • Economic Action Maryland
  • Georgetown University, Center on Health Insurance Reforms
  • Horizon Goodwill Industries
  • Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights
  • KFF Health News
  • National Consumer Law Center (NCLC)
  • North Carolina Justice Center
  • People’s Action
  • Persius
  • Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP)
  • Small Business Majority
  • Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research
  • Third Way
  • Undue Medical Debt
  • University of South Carolina
  • Urban Institute
  • U.S. PIRG

Panelists

Ge Bai

Ge Bai

Professor of Accounting and Professor of Health Policy & Management, Johns Hopkins University

Ge Bai, PhD, CPA, is a Professor of Accounting at the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School and Professor of Health Policy & Management at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Ge Bai

Elisabeth Benjamin

Vice President of Health Initiatives, Community Service Society of New York

Elisabeth Benjamin is the Vice President of Health Initiatives at the Community Service Society, where she supervises health policy, health advocacy, and consumer health assistance programs that serve over 130,000 New Yorkers annually.

Ge Bai

Fred Blavin

Senior Fellow, Urban Institute Health Policy Division

Fredric Blavin, PhD, is a Senior Fellow and leads the Low-Income Coverage, Access, and Affordability Practice Area in the Urban Institute’s Health Policy Division. He has extensive experience evaluating policies related to medical debt, health care coverage and affordability, and hospital finances.

Fred Cerise

Fred Cerise

President and Chief Executive Officer, Parkland Health

Frederick P. Cerise, MD, MPH has served as President and Chief Executive Officer of Parkland Health since 2014. His previous roles include the Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals and the Vice President for Health Affairs and Medical Education of the Louisiana State University System.

Fred Cerise

Kelsey Chalmers

Director of Research, Data Science at the Lown Institute

Dr. Chalmers is the Director of Research, Data Science at the Lown Institute. She has contributed to the development of the Lown Institute Hospital Index, the first ranking to evaluate hospitals on their social responsibility – assessing metrics of health equity and value of care alongside traditional patient outcomes.

Fred Cerise

Sara Collins

Senior Scholar, Vice President, Health Care Coverage and Access & Tracking Health System Performance, The Commonwealth Fund

Sara R. Collins, Ph.D., is senior scholar and vice president for health care coverage and access and tracking health system performance at The Commonwealth Fund.

Fred Cerise

Connor Coursey

Senior Government Affairs Associate, Small Business Majority

Connor supports Small Business Majority’s government affairs work through the organization’s relationships and advocacy efforts on Capitol Hill, federal agencies, and the White House. 

Fred Cerise

Nicole Dozier

Director of Health Advocacy Project, North Carolina Justice Center

Nicole Dozier, Director of the Health Advocacy Project is a 28-year veteran of the North Carolina Justice Center, a statewide non-profit organization committed to attacking poverty at its roots through various issue areas deploying diverse strategies.

Blair Elliot

Blair Elliot

Health Policy Advisor, Third Way

Blair is the Health Policy Advisor for Third Way’s Economic program. In her role, she develops and advances ideas that will lower health care costs and make accessing quality care easier for Americans.

Blair Elliot

Chris Goodman

Clinical Associate Professor of internal medicine at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine and Prisma Health.

Christopher W. Goodman, MD, received his medical degree from the University of South Carolina School of Medicine and completed his residency in internal medicine at Emory University.

Blair Elliot

Deepak Manmohan Goyal

Physician Executive, Monument Health

Dr. Deepak Manmohan Goyal is an accomplished Physician Executive at Monument Health, bringing over 24 years of progressive medical and executive leadership experience to the forefront of healthcare innovation in Rapid City, SD.

Berneta Haynes

Senior Attorney, National Consumer Law Center

Berneta L. Haynes is a senior attorney who focuses on consumer energy policy and medical debt.

Blair Elliot

Patricia Kelmar

Senior Director of Health Care Campaigns, U.S. PIRG

Patricia Kelmar is the Senior Director, Health Care Campaigns for U.S. PIRG. PIRG is a federation of state-based, nonpartisan, citizen-funded Public Interest Research Groups.

Blair Elliot

Maanasa Kona

Associate Research Professor at the Center on Health Insurance Reforms, Georgetown University

Maanasa Kona, JD, LLM, is an Associate Research Professor and faculty member at the Center on Health Insurance Reforms at Georgetown University’s McCourt School of Public Policy.

Blair Elliot

Julia Lerche

Chief Strategy Officer and Chief Actuary for North Carolina Medicaid

Julia Lerche, FSA, MAAA, MSPH, is a health policy professional and actuary dedicated to improving the health of vulnerable populations.

Blair Elliot

Noam Levey

Senior Correspondent, KFF Health News

Noam N. Levey is a Washington, D.C.,-based senior correspondent for KFF Health News, where he is currently producing “Diagnosis: Debt,” a multi-year project on medical debt in the U.S. in collaboration with NPR and CBS News.

Blair Elliot

Luvia Quiñones

Senior Director of Health Policy, Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights

Luvia Quiñones serves as the Senior Director of Health Policy at the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR).

Blair Elliot

Matthew Rae

Associate Director of the Program on the Health Care Marketplace, KFF

Matthew Rae serves as the Associate Director of the Program on the Health Care Marketplace at KFF, where he has been managing the Employer Health Benefits Survey since 2011.

Blair Elliot

Eli Rushbanks

General Counsel and Director of Policy & Advocacy, DollarFor

Eli is an attorney who works at the intersection of medical debt and consumer protection. He currently is the General Counsel and Director of Policy & Advocacy at Dollar For, a patient advocacy non-profit that helps patients apply for hospital financial assistance.

Blair Elliot

Vikas Saini

President, Lown Institute

Vikas Saini, MD is president of the Lown Institute. He is a clinical cardiologist trained by Dr. Bernard Lown who has taught and done research at both Harvard Medical School and Harvard School of Public Health.

Blair Elliot

David Shuster

President and Chief Executive Officer, Horizon Goodwill Industries

David Shuster currently serves as the President and Chief Executive Officer of Horizon Goodwill Industries in Hagerstown MD. He has been with Horizon Goodwill (HGI) since November 2013, serving previously as an Associate Director, Director, and Interim CEO.

Blair Elliot

Eva Stahl

VP of Public Policy & Program Management, Undue Medical Debt

Eva Marie Stahl is the VP of Public Policy & Program Management at Undue Medical Debt. Eva oversees development and implementation of Undue Medical Debt’s policy work and programming, including beneficiary insights, community engagement and government initiatives.

Blair Elliot

Michelle Sternthal

Director of Government Affairs, Community Catalyst

Michelle Sternthal, PhD, is the Director of Government Affairs at Community Catalyst, where she oversees Community Catalyst’s strategic engagement with Congress, the Executive Branch, and with national partners and coalitions focused on federal policy advocacy work.

Blair Elliot

Ed Weisbart

Board Secretary, Physicians for a National Health Program

After practicing family medicine for 20 years at Rush Medical Center in Chicago, Ed Weisbart MD moved to St. Louis MO in 2003 to serve as chief medical officer of Express Scripts until retiring in 2010.

Anthony Wright

Executive Director, Families USA

Anthony E. Wright (He, Him) is Families USA’s Executive Director.

Blair Elliot

Wes Yin

Professor of Economics, University of California, Los Angeles

Wesley Yin is a Professor of economics at the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs, and the Anderson School of Management. He is also a Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research, and a Faculty Affiliate at the Jameel Poverty Action Lab at MIT.